Here is a link to a page that lists several, of varying quality. http://www.bris.ac.uk/ISC/cms/ttw.html I liked WebEdit Pro at http://www.webedpro.com/index.html. It's IE 5+ only though, and comes as part of a larger site management system. It's pretty cheap - $145. You could throw out the management part and just use the editor and it would still be a good deal. And by the way, most IE-only editors do not use ActiveX controls, they use IFrames, JavaScript and MSHTML and take advantage of built-in IE capabilities. Paul Paul R. Woods Flying Pylon Web Solutions http://www.flyingpylon.com