[thelist] Browser Stats Released

Tom Dell'Aringa pixelmech at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 25 11:40:01 CDT 2002

--- Chris Kaminski <chris at setmajer.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 05:45 PM, Tom Dell'Aringa wrote:
> > Actually, for logs I have taken a look at recently, NN4 is LESS
> > than 1.4%. I think the best stats out there are the enterprise
> > ones by Statmarket.com, but it $9,000 for a monthly report so...I
> > won't be getting that anytime soon. We used to get them at Scient
> > which was great. Its a sampling of like 50 MILLION web sites. I'd
> > be real interested to see that one now...When I left Scient well
> > over a year ago NN4 was around 8% on those reports.
> Doesn't Statmarket.com get it's numbers from the same place as
> theCounter.com?
> Regardless, theCounter's numbers for April:
> MSIE 5.x					55%
> MSIE 6.x					32%
> Netscape 4.x				 4%
> MSIE 4.x					 3%
> Opera x.x*					 0.7%
> Netscape 3.x*				 0.07%
> *my own calculations based on supplied total visitors and totals
> for those two browsers
> Compare w/OneStat and you'll see significant differences.
> I know for a fact theCounter's stats are wrong. For one thing,
> they're reporting useragents that are not Y2K compliant and
> shouldn't be able to run anymore. Those almost certainly must be
> 'bots skewing the numbers.
> TheCounter and OneState are both garbage, AFAIC. You can read more
> about why here:
> <http://www.macedition.com/cb/cb_20011231.php>

That's a really good article and well worth the read. I totally forgot about Mac users and NS4.
(And I used to be one of them!) But he kind of validates the fact that NS4 is dying a slow but
sure death. One point of debate may be his contention that "somewhere in the middle of 2002" we
can start designing for standards compliant browsers...well, here we are in mid-2002 and I don't
know that you can stop hacking your pages just yet.


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