[thelist] Re: [css-d] Re: any K-Meleon gotchas?

Techwatcher techwatcher at accesswriters.com
Sat Jul 6 07:21:01 CDT 2002

Hi, Leonard & All --

> best of any browsers released).  There's full CSS1 support (bugs are
> annotated:
> http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/bugspecs/REC-CSS1.html) and
> almost all of CSS2.  Note, that negative borders _shouldn't_ render.
> "Border widths cannot be negative."
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1#border-width
> "The border's thickness has an explicit value. Explicit border widths
> cannot be negative." -
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/box.html#border-width-properties
> If you want to do negative spacings, you should use margin-width.

Thanks, Leonard, for responding. You're right; the negative *border* was
a hack I introduced (as recommended by another evolter) because negative
*margin* didn't work on my client's (IE 6?) browser.

What would you recommend to get the entire (viewport) page to have wide
margins, but at the top, have floated left and right logo and linkages?
Originally, I set margins for all types of elements used, individually,
which was inelegant (i.e., specify wide margins for hn, p, ul [other
than specified class nav], images [other than specified image logo],
etc.) I would have liked to use body, but in CSS2 that's an inline
element, so I set basic margins on the HTML element. But my logo and
nav-aid are exceptions to the setting for HTML, so I tried to float them
beyond the margins. But setting margin to be negative failed on the
browser the client happened to have. Sigh...

Btw, I have IE 2.0 (!) and plan to keep it to test "degraded" CSS, so I
don't want to load another IE browser with which to experiment. (I read
recently -- Eric's article? -- that it is only possible to have one IE
browser on a machine.) I also have Nav. 4.0 (only because I have CD for
that one, so it's no 1-2 hr. download), just got Opera 6, but plan to
use K-Meleon as my primary browser.

(I *love* K-Meleon! Fast to download, works fast, renders really well,
except that color has to be >64k or look weird, but who cares -- unless
it's a gallery site? I'm going to recommend K-Meleon to all users of old
browsers I see from now on.)

Cheers --
Carol Stein

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