here's some irony... this article: The Wrong Way to Use CSS in Page Layouts http://algonquinstudios.com/article_293.html was reported busted in Opera6 and IE6 on win2k... i cannot reproduce the error on 8 different systems (maybe more, waiting for some replies)... i'm looking to see if anyone with this configuration can take a look and tell me if it's busted, and if so, if it looks like the below images: http://roselli.org/xfer/broken_o6_small.gif http://roselli.org/xfer/broken_ie6_small.gif -- Read the evolt.org case study Usability: The Site Speaks for Itself http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151035/evoltorg02-20 ISBN: 1904151035