Steve Cook wrote: >If the client are *that* slimy that they would consider stealing your work, >then you might want to question whether it is worth working for them at all >;-) All clients ARE that slimy! not that they are deliberately trying to defraud, con, steal, take the food from my babies mouth, but if you show them something, and they have a number of people pitching then they are bound to say, "ohh, and we like this"... What can you do as a designer/programmer? Not a lot, as you / others have said make sure that you slap a great big copyright notice across all the images so if they do show it to others, at least then the winning pitch will be aware of your work, and the non-client/rival has to deliberately chose to ignore the notice. As a programmer it's more difficult when you suggest various bits and pieces and it turns up on their site 3 months later... On the bright side if they do show it to others you may get some collaboration deals in the long term. Kind regards, Liam http://www.liamdelahunty.com *Right Now* Liam is listening to: athome project / all in my mind / Various Artists / Bassic Instinct No. 3.