Benjer, Yes I have seen the size of the pdf's. There is a great utility called PDFcompress which easily takes care of the size. The reason that the psf's are so big is because none of the graphics are compressed. PDFcompress gives you the ability to do this, just like Distiller. OS9 is dead, its the past. On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 08:41 AM, Benjer wrote: > Have you ever looked at the size of PDF's created from any OSX app?? > > significantly higher than distiller.