Put the text in a div and position it over the image with the style="position:absolute; left:XXpx; top:XXpx; width:XXpx; height:XXpx;....whatever you need. Hope this helps. cheers Kev -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Wostrel [mailto:gwostrel at mac.com] Sent: Friday, 18 October 2002 9:51 a.m. To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: [thelist] image over text? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] OK, I know someone here will have some ideas for this. I am working on a site for a resort and what I want to do on the opening page is have text that lies on top of an image. I don't want to use a big image in it (like I am in the example I have linked) but rather use live text over an image. Can I do this without using the picture as a background tile? There can be so many problem with that. Maybe it is the best way to go. My concern with it not being a gif or jpeg picture/text is that I want the text to be available to search engines and so on. this is what I what it to look like: http://www.gwcreative.com/working/weekapaug/ Greg Wostrel gwcreative http://www.gwcreative.com/ gw at gwcreative.com Communications and the Art of Simplicity -- -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !