hi, ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< > From: Stevenson Ngila > > don't use #NoWords# use #FORM.NoWords# ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< that doesn't change anything. if it's in the form scope, refering to it in an unscoped fashion will still find it. i agree it's better to scope it so coldfusion doesn't have to search for it, but it'll still work. .jeff http://evolt.org/ jeff at members.evolt.org http://members.evolt.org/jeff/