yep thats the one chris :) so it is the <td> after all and not the whole table.... Andrew try this link... http://www.swatgear.com/testfiles/overflow2.htm let me know. and to max, he doesn't mean that it should be able to be seen behind the bottom navigation, but rather that it should appear as if it were coming from behind it. when in reality it is just an overflowed div inside a <td>.