lookit this: http://www.capoeiramandingabuffalo.com/msgboard.mv i wanna do the exact same thing on a win2k/IIS platform... the one above is hosted at yahoo, and i'm moving the site to my servers (nice community freebie stuff)... sure, there are things like snitz fora and all sorts of other stuff, but i don't want that... it's proven to be too complex for the users, it's a lot more than they need... they love the one they have... i wanna re-create it... suggestions? anyone recognize the engine? -- my latest book project: Web Graphics for Non-Designers http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151159/evoltorg02-20 ISBN: 1904151159