> in half a hair follicle. stop that you did real good <warning type="OT" comment="tip follows" /> and speaking of hair follicles, this morning linky & dinky sent me this link -- http://www.geocities.com/thesciencefiles/eyelash/creatures.html along with this really nicely done and topically updated version of an old meme -- http://www.chickenjoke.com/ <tip type="web design"> want a really good way to "scale" your fonts? use ems all over the place and then make one -- one! -- size specification in percent in the BODY style declaration (but don't go below 76%) http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/font/index.html read through it all, then follow the link at the bottom to see the explanation called Sane CSS Sizes </tip> rudy