Sorry for this post but just in case there are some people who aren't on thechat. Pub gathering tonight for Evolters in or near London: http://lists.evolt.org/thechatarchive/Week-of-Mon-20030203/3616470.html Please don't reply to this list. Join thechat instead: http://lists.evolt.org <tip type="Zope"> Plone, the nice CMS which works on top of Zope, has reached version 1.0 and comes with full installers of itself, Zope and Python for Win32 and OSX. Have a play with it: http://www.plone.org </tip> ------------------------------------------ John Handelaar T +44 20 8933 1494 M +44 7930 681789 F +44 870 169 7657 E john at userfrenzy.com ------------------------------------------