[thelist] Object/Embed for RealPlayer in XHTML what to do?

Gregory Wostrel info at gwcreative.com
Wed Jul 2 15:24:46 CDT 2003

OK, here is my quandary:
I am trying to bring a large, very old style (lots of <font>, <b>, 
nested tables, no DocTypes etc etc), site into XHTML/CSS compliance. 
Most of the job is just wading through and redoing. However, there is a 
large amount of the site that consists of a page that loads with a 
study guide as text and a lecture playing in an embedded RealPlayer. It 
works pretty well, but of course what controls it is something like 

<object classid="clsid:CFCDAA03-8BE4-11cf-B84B-0020AFBBCCFA" 
height="124" width="264" align="left">
											<param name="src" value="micah1a.rpm" />
											<param name="autostart" value="-1" />
											<param name="console" value="clip1" />
											<param name="attr" value="value" />
											<param name="controls" value="all" />
											<embed align="left" height="124" src="media/micah1a.rpm" 
type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin" width="264" console="clip1" 
controls="all" autostart="true" attr="value" />

So I have a thorny one left over from the "browser wars". IE 
understands Object, Netscape needs Embed and the pages as they exist 
will not validate. We also get a steady trickle of people who have 
trouble with the audio, but that could be anything.

So what to do? I could back off of XHTML and it gets a little better, 
or I could just not care about the validating. But my conscience nags 
at me. I am supposed to care, I figure, and I want it to be the best it 
can be.

Any advice from experts?

Gregory Wostrel

gw at gwcreative.com
Communications and the Art of Simplicity

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