[thelist] favicon weirdness

[Jeff Howden]

ppk,

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> From: Peter-Paul Koch
>
> My cynicism is in this case not directed at Explorer or
> its development team, but at the particular *story*
> "Microsoft-employees-ask-about-standards-so-Explorer-
> must-become-standards-compliant".  I do not believe in
> that story and am pretty cynical about the wishful
> thinking web developers reveal by telling and re-telling
> it.
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sorry to say, but history has proven otherwise.  not only has microsoft
implemented a number of standards in ie (win & mac) because of their
involvement with/membership in various standards committees, they've also
helped create standards for things that have proven very useful.

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> > and from someone that does web application development
> > (no, not .net) on a daily basis and has done so for a
> > number of years, i can tell you that w3c dom doesn't
> > even come close to some of the problems i've
> > encountered.
>
> I'm making a strong statement because I hope for
> reactions.  Please give me an example of something an
> application running on the client side can do and the
> W3C DOM can't. (Except for saving data back to the
> server, that doesn't work yet in the W3C DOM).
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sorry, no exceptions.  the w3's biggest shortfall right now is in effective
in-page communication with the server.  sure, we've got hacks like hidden
iframes, swapping the source of a 1x1 image, etc.  these are all ugly and
have huge disadvantages associated with using them.  sorry, but non-hackish,
in-page communication with the server is paramount to web-app development.

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> Example, please.
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crank up win/ie6 and head to http://oddpost.com/.

.jeff

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