> .classname a{} > Will produce much cleaner html than > a.classname{} a{} will produce the cleanest html > You could add > /* > inline high pass filter hack > <http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/inlinehpf.html> > */ no, you could i wouldn't use either hack > You can't possibly object to a box model hack as simple as the Tan hack? me? yes others? their call rudy