[thelist] RE: Hebrew enabled Windows & Word

[Jon Ambrose]

To all who responded thank you all very much .... now I can see what I need 

Have a good weekend 

With thanks
Jon Ambrose
:)


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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:23 AM
Subject: RE: [thelist] RE: Hebrew enabled Windows & Word


> Hi.
> 
> A couple of points.
> 
> 1.I use Hebrew Enabled Windows instead of Localized
> because everyone I know advised me that there were
> problems with the localized version (I'm running 98
> and some of this may have improved in later Windows
> releases). As everyone had uninstalled Hebrew Windows
> and put in the enabled version, I just took the advice
> from the beginning, so I've almost never touched the
> localized version and cannot comment from experience.
> 
> 2. The main problem with Hebrew is bidirectionality.
> This problem has never been adequately dealt with.
> I've seen Israeli workarounds mentioned on the web.
> Try google.co.il (or just enter a search term on
> Google in Hebrew and they'll send you there).
> 
> 3. Very briefly, you can type a document from right to
> left in the first place. If the document is all in
> Hebrew...no problem. Obviously, the same is true of
> typing English from left to right.
> 
> When you need mixed text, the fun begins. I've seen
> Microsoft Help documentation which was virtually
> unreadable because of this problem...i.e. the words in
> the secondary language are in "push mode" (written in
> the same direction as the primary language of the
> page). Often when saving a document of this type
> everything blows apart...English words jump out of the
> Hebrew sentence and appear bunched together at the
> end...and other cute phenomena.
> 
> In short, formatted documents can be a problem you'll
> need to play with. One tip - if things are going wrong
> and you can't seem to place text where you want it
> (cut & paste doesn't work, etc, etc.) - give up! That
> means start a new document making sure it's set for
> the correct direction, paragraph indentation, etc.
> FROM THE START.
> 
> PLAIN TEXT is a disaster. No editor can handle it.
> Hebrew can be typed from right to left, but when you
> save the document that will be lost and your page will
> be left-aligned. Mixed text...forget about it (the
> only solution I've ever found was to arrange the text
> so I could write the secondary language on a separate
> line..looks terrible but can be read OR transliterate
> English words to Hebrew letters and vice versa).
> 
> 3. Having said all that, I recently got my brother
> (who has regular American English Windows) to write
> Hebrew in Word just by having him add the Hebrew
> keyboard from Control Panel and sending him some
> Hebrew fonts.
> 
> 4. If you must produce nice, highly formatted
> documents in Hebrew for presentations, etc., I've seen
> some impressive stuff in PDF.
> 
> 5. If you're writing HTML in Hebrew or mixed script,
> there are other tricks to use, but that's for a
> different thread.
> 
> <transliteration>
> BeHatzlacha
> </transliteration>
> 
> David
> 
> 
> --- Hershel Robinson <hershelr at netvision.net.il>
> wrote:
> > > I have been advised the following contrasting
> > information:-
> > > 1. Either need to buy a new version of Windows OS
> > specifically for
> > > Israel/Hebrew, or,
> > > 2. If have WXP Home I should be able to set it up
> > accordingly for
> > > Hebrew/Israel settings at no cost - may need to
> > download
> > > drivers/patches
> > > from Micrsoft web site but that would be it.
> > >
> > > Additionally, and in both cases above I would then
> > also need
> > > to purchase a
> > > copy of Microsoft Office for Hebrew/Israel too.
> > 
> > If you need only to send correspondence in Hebrew,
> > then you do not need a
> > unique operating system. MS Office 2000 and XP both
> > should allow you to
> > download language packs without charge. My
> > installation of Office 2000 has
> > the Hebrew language pack installed. I can read and
> > write in Hebrew in MS
> > Word and I can read incoming letters in Hebrew in
> > Outlook.
> > 
> > I believe that MS Word 2000 or XP with the Hebrew
> > language pack is the
> > standard here for document sharing. For further
> > information, however, I
> > would recommend that you ask a local mailing list.
> > The most appropriate
> > being janglo at yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Hershel,
> > Jerusalem, Israel
> > 
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