Interesting that his examples: a) Montessori school: used tables and javascript b) k10k: used frames c) fox searchlight: used tables These were supposed to be examples of using CSS and tableless layouts? Or did I misunderstand? Anyway, I liked the presentation. On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 04:56 AM, thelist-request at lists.evolt.org wrote: > There is nothing new here that has not already been said on this list > about the use of CSS. However, the presentation is worth a look: > > http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/ > > Javed