[thelist] Login Screen Security

John.Brooking at sappi.com John.Brooking at sappi.com
Wed Nov 12 12:37:58 CST 2003


Thanks for the response, Josh. I was just preparing a follow-up on some
client-side JavaScript I found which implements crypt, but your message sort
of beat me to the punch.

On the salt exposure problem: Even if the cracker can sniff the salt (now
there's an image!), does it do him any good? It would certainly give him a
much improved chance of guessing the password by running his guesses through
his own crypt function to positively identify a match with what he sniffed.
But he's still guessing passwords, so he's not any further ahead than if he
was guessing passwords at a regular login screen that submits via SSL,
right? It *is* kind of shame to protect the salt so well on the server side,
only to expose it on the client, but if it doesn't hurt us, is that really a
problem?

I'll incorporate our conclusions, with a URL to the client-side crypt code,
into a tip.

- John

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