[thelist] Topica = Spam?

Toby Mills toby at tobymills.com
Sun Jan 25 08:34:39 CST 2004

Why punish people for wanting to send an email with rich text features like
colour, bold, underline and nicely inserted hyperlinks.

I can understand that a lot of spam use html to imbed images to get around
spam filters but that no reason to punish or "educate" people into using
only plain text.

toby mills
web developer & programmer



-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Shawn K. Quinn
Sent: 25 January 2004 01:09
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] Topica = Spam?

On Wednesday 2004 January 21 14:06, Cancilla Dominick wrote:
> I've got a client who is looking to move his opt-in e-mail list to
> Topica because he wants to start sending HTML e-mail (the program we
> currently use is text only).

I personally filter all mail that is either exclusively HTML, or 
multipart-alternative with an HTML part, to trash. That takes care of 
the vast majority of my spam, and makes it painfully obvious who I need 
to educate about the benefits of sending mail in plain text.

Also, as a security precaution, I have my e-mail client set to not parse 
HTML *at all*.

> However, while researching this I found that any e-mail list I opt
> into on Topica gets tagged as Spam by my company's blocking software.
> I even found an instance of a company whose newsletters came through
> fine, but started to be blocked when they switched to Topica.

On the anti-spam mailing list I am on, Topica is well recognized as 
nearly unrepentant spam supporters. They have even gone so far as to 
seperate "good" lists from spam lists, putting them in seperate IP 
blocks, in a feeble attempt to keep the "good" lists from getting 
tagged as spam.

Shawn K. Quinn
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