> I would say this is of dubious relevance, when the exploits for them > choke down entire networks and the fallout affects everyone, even those > of us who have long since ceased trusting Microsoft. Also, Microsoft is > not exactly known for brutal honesty when it comes to owing up to a bug > in their software, in particular if it is security-related, and even if > they acknowledge it the impact is ridiculously downplayed. This has gone quite off-topic at this point, but I want to add my two cents. This whole MS is not secure thing really comes down to 1 thing: popularity. Think about it. If 90% of the world used a *nix kernel, as a virus maker or hacker, what would you go after? I strongly feel that as *nix becomes more and more popular, that there are going to be a bunch of security holes, and thus viri, patches, and so forth. And well, sometimes things take time to fix- a patch is not always an easy thing to come up- so that it doesn't hinder the rest of the o/s, all the while, fixing the breach in the system.