Hello How could a MySQL query look like, that selects all users that don't start with a, b, c... z? $query = "select * from otn_user where user ! like 'a%' user ! like 'b%' and user ! like 'c%' and . . . user ! like 'z%' order by user"; ... throws an error :-/ Thanks!! Mike _____ mike s. krischker http://webdesign-schweiz.ch/ flashpro mailing list http://flash-list.com/ royalty free flash sounds http://flash-sounds.com/