A fantastic resource I've never heard mention of here (I was tipped off by a client) is: http://www.opensourcecms.com/ It allows you to try out various CMS systems without the hassle of installing them yourself. An important restriction is that the CMSes are all PHP/mySQL FWIW, my client particularly likes the look of Typo3. Geoff --- Premonition Design Ltd East London, UK http://www.premonition.co.uk