> I think the actual question qot answered, but the answers kind of > drowned :-) I guess I (and those replying to me) did kind of hijack the thread - sorry about that! <tip type="the (business) value of standards and accessibility"> This tip is for those of you who, like me, are pushing to move forward with web standards and accessibility, and, incidentally, to stop using tables for layout. When I come across a good article explaining why standards and accessibility are so important, I add it to my collection in case I need to convince a client of their importance and value. Clients may listen to me on my own, but it's good to have some outside references to back me up. http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2003/why-web-standards/ http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/01/the_business_case_for_web_accessibility/index.php http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000266.php http://www.maccaws.org/kit/way-forward/#benefits (or the full article: http://www.maccaws.org/kit/way-forward/) http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/02/33/index1a.html http://alistapart.com/articles/netscape/ </tip> -- Sarah Sweeney Web Developer & Programmer Portfolio :: http://sarah.designshift.com Blog, etc :: http://hardedge.ca