Hello, everyone, Today, I'd be very interested in hearing peoples' responses to some non-technical thoughts I've been having about a certain kind of website. Over the past few years, I've thought of a number of interesting concepts for websites, which I have never been able to spend any actual time on due to the constraints of having to earn a living. Without going into the details of them, they are what I've been calling, for lack of a known term, "concept-driven" sites. By that, I mean that they are not merely an online presence of an existing offline commercial or non-profit organization, and they are not selling any discrete units of anything. Rather, they are dedicated to some particular idea. In promotion of that idea, they would feature a discussion forum as well as a wealth of information about that topic, a way to allow participants to meet up locally, and maybe some other promotional features such as contests, games, or polls. In short, anything and everything about a particular idea. The first thing I'm trying to do is put a name to this kind of site, if one has already been coined. Blogs and discussion boards are similar beasts, in that their primary "products" are ideas, and their primary manifestation is online (as well as in the heads of the participants). But as I said, the sites I'm thinking about will have more than just discussion. There are also single-purpose sites such as Meetup.com, which fit my description in that their primary "product" is not in saleable units, and in that it is an online commodity only. But again, my sites would have more than that. I'm sure that such sites exist, but if they had a named category, such as "blog", "portal", "storefront", etc., it would be easier to talk about them. Maybe it could be described as kind of an on-line community? Secondly, it would be helpful if there were already a known "business model" that could be followed in developing such a site for at least a modicum of profit. My first thought was that such a site would be not-for-profit, but in the real world, people (I, for one) need to earn a living. I'm busy enough with pro-bono computer work and other non-computer extracurricular activities, I don't need or want to dedicate even more time to more websites as simply a labor of love, however much I would like to see them exist. Maybe through a combination of ads and donations, it would be nice if someday the combined income could at least help me to make ends meet if I decided to "quit my lousy job" (working for someone else). Or at least justify the time I spend on them by contributing to the household income. In a sense, this kind of site seems like a good candidate to be operated by some non-profit or think tank would, in relation to their mission, instead of being privately operated. But I'm the one that had the idea, and I don't happen to work for any of them. Should I try to find a sponsor for the idea, and build it as a consultant to them? But then they are the owners, and its fate is tied to theirs, or at least to their management decisions. I guess I feel like it's my baby to the point that I don't want to just build it and sell it off. I guess what I'm looking for is enough of a sense of how to categorize this kind of site, and possible business models for it, to get started confidently. Even better would be if there were some kind of "incubator" organization for such sites, which can help them get started by providing the infrastructure, business contacts, and maybe even some capital to get started. The software is not a problem, there is certainly enough good software for each of the individual components out there already. But a good portion of these sites will also be good old-fashioned non-technical research (for related resources), which just takes time, which as we all know, is money. The software is almost the least of it. So, if you want specific questions to answer, here are some. Does anyone (a) have a name for the kind of site I'm talking about, and (b) know where to go for resources, especially business resources, in starting such a site? Or just feel free to respond to anything else I've said. - John -- This message may contain information which is private, privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named in the message. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender thereof and destroy / delete the message. Neither the sender nor Sappi Limited (including its subsidiaries and associated companies) shall incur any liability resulting directly or indirectly from accessing any of the attached files which may contain a virus or the like.