Hi, sounds like your client/manager wants their cake and to eat it. I recommend that you come back in 10 years time when CSS 7 is implemented by all major web browsers. Or use PDF now. Like everyone else in the world. cheers -- Dr Stuart Young, +64 (0)9-815 4321 x 8656 <syoung at unitec.ac.nz> +64 021 183 2846 (mob) Lecturer, School of Computing and Information Technology, Unitec New Zealand, Auckland, New Zealand http://tinyurl.com/4956o (the official URL for my staffpage is too long and complex) http://www.pixelandgrain.co.nz/ Web development, graphic design and photography