The problem is not really the alignment mis-tagging issues in the CSS. The symptom of the problem is the </LI> tags which are sometimes used to close an <LI> and sometimes not. According the HTML 4.01 spec (and prior) the </LI> tag is optional. THIS is the problem. How does each browser handle the effect of the </LI>? Differently. So if you want to nest... you've got to use it consistently. Which unclosed </LI> are those last </LI> tags closing? IE is probably asking the very same question! Closing them all makes an even bigger mess. So I think what I'd do, is simplify the process, by making an open grid with my <div> tags... then physically putting one of the corner img files in the <div> and float it... and then put the other in the background of the div... etc. In other words... go for a box within a box, but do not rely on the spacing in the interior box... lay everything out along the interior border of the outside box... let dead air float inbetween the boxes. Problemo avoided (if not solved!) r ----------------- c:/dos c:/dos/run run/dos/run >> ----------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist- > bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Matt Warden > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:57 PM > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Subject: [thelist] CSS rounded borders in IE/Win problem > > thelist, > > I am having a problem with rounded borders using the background-image > method in IE on Windows. I'm really not sure what the problem is, but > I think I have it narrowed down to *where* the problem is. See a > simplified template here: > > http://mwarden.f2o.org/test/navproblem.htm > > As you can see, on IE, the right and left border extends further than it > should. > > At first I thought it might be a default z-index difference in IE, but > adding a border to UL id'd as "navlist" gets rid of this extension: > > http://mwarden.f2o.org/test/navproblem_border.htm > > which really doesn't make any sense to me. > > The CSS can be found here: > > http://mwarden.f2o.org/test/simplifiedstyle.css > > Any ideas? > > > Thanks, > > > -- > Matt Warden > Miami University > Oxford, OH > http://mattwarden.com > > > This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy. > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt !