Following a discussion about the benefits of Internet Explorer, where one of the points pro-IE was that it is very forgiving towards bad markup, I wondered what would it would be like if other products behaved like IE: http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=65 Sorry if that is off-topic and you feel this is a waste of time. Chris -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ Binaries: http://www.onlinetools.org/