> I wouldn't have thought you'd like to have processing pages showing up on search engines. I am using php headers just to jump from one file and back again. The browser or bot shouldn't see this process, they *should* just get the resultant file. I tried an include, to no avail. The script is just header("location: https://onlinekitchenware.co.uk/ssl.htm?sid=$sid"); Ssl.htm then creates the session with the session id sid and returns with Header("location: http://www.onlinekitchenware.co.uk/index.htm"); This does actually work, but there is a slight delay on first viewing of the web site (per session). Phil