Hey all, I haven't done any ASP programming in a long time (and the crowd cheered). However I am now updating an old web site where I need to do some ASP (and the crowd boos.) Anyway, I have literally been searching the web for over a half hour for a simple ASP reference where I can look up methods and properties. Example - I needed to look up Select Case ( finally found it on a VB reference site) and now I'm simply wanting to find substr and substring, how to correctly use them. I'm am getting totally shut out on Google, and I can't begin to tell you how frustrating it is! I've tried searching every combo. Anyway, there has GOT to be some kind of ASP reference where I can look stuff up online - anyone know of one? Has .Net just superceded everything? Lots of my old ASP links are now dead and even DevGuru's site blows for ASP. I'd look this stuff up in a book but I don't have one around for ASP. Last case scenario - mabye someone can clue me in on the substr and substring methods! TIA Tom http://www.pixelmech.com/ Melissa: Ace, Where are you? Ace Ventura: I'm in Psychoville and Finkle's the Mayor.