At 10:39 AM 2005-08-23, you wrote: >surely the sort orders that he is requesting are not arbitrary; Close enough to arbitrary. Just to add some context. It's an art site. An artist is a category in a hiearchical tree. The artist is related to a top level category, there are products related to the artist. Each product as a "type", perhaps sculpture, or painting, or drawings, for example. What my client wants is that each artist displays the list of "types" in a formation unique to them. One may be a sculpter first, and an painter second, this, sculptures would take precedence over painting. He wants to re-order them according to subjective importance. Frank Marion lists at frankmarion.com Keep the signal high.