Dan McCullough wrote: > I have a client who wants a drop shadow around the border of their > website. So the middle of the page looks like its raised. I can do > it with cropping images and putting that as the border around the > outside. Is there away to pull this off in css to give the illusion > that a page is raised without using the shadow images? There was recently a post on CSS-d about styling the HTML element, which has by default a border in IE Win. This may be of interest to you. The relevant URIs are: http://www.stilbuero.de/demo/viewport_without_border/viewport_with_border.gif http://www.stilbuero.de/demo/viewport_without_border/viewport_without_border.gif http://www.stilbuero.de/demo/viewport_without_border/ ADDING a border to the HTML element may or may not work in all browsers, but it seems to be worth a try. :) HTH, Hershel