jason.handby wrote: >>Anyway, if any thoughts on the above, do let me know. >> >> > >Cloudmark Desktop is good: > > http://www.cloudmark.com/desktop/?from=bus-box > >It's not server-based (they do have a server-based product but it's more >expensive). > has to be server based so that if i cant get to the account in time, at least some mail is getting through. but thanks for the tip. used it a while back, but thunderbird is alirght for now. > And it's definitely not as much fun to tinker with as Exim. > > waiting for host to do the exim. ive been asked not to set it up. >But your time is valuable! Use something quick and easy to deal with >your spam, and then move on to solving problems that will actually make >you money! :-) > true true all true. nevertheless i have my own motivations to do this and im aware that spending time on it when http://spamassassin.apache.org/ will do what i want. i think its an excuse to get writing some proper server software. I should have mentioned that even 30% spam reduction would be result for me. A.