Hi listers Has anyone used this Database Designer product? any opinion on it? http://microolap.com/products/database/mysql-designer/ or would Case Studio, Visual Paradigm be a better bet...? Have been looking for a good, reasonable cost, simple database design tool for quite a while. Not a full blown CASE app but just something that will do ERD and generate SQL for a variety of RDBMSs. And maybe some UML (but there is always good old dia for that) thanks -- # S Beam - Web App Dev Servs # http://www.onsetcorps.net/