Given that Netscape are now up to release 8 of their browser, and Netscape browsers as a whole are estimated at less than .5% of overall browser usage, I'd say they are themselves pretty good arguments for not supporting it. Besides, using web standards you can provide some kind of fallback position, just without the more advanced functionality that other users will get. Seems ridiculous to me to design a site using outdated, non-standard methods to support (very) old browsers, whilst missing out on the benefits of browsers that 99% of us use, although I know this isn't your decision of course, and i've been in the same boat - believe me! I'd also imagine that Netscape have long since stopped supporting NS4, which is another useful argument. Similarly I believe that MS stopped supporting IE5 earlier this year (or maybe last). Anyway, best of luck, and I'll be interested if anyone else can come up with some interesting approaches too. Lee McIvor Web Developer Email lee.mcivor at thinkco.com Telephone +44 (0)191 269 9840 Facsimile +44 (0)191 269 9841 Website www.thinkco.com TH_NK, 42 Leazes Park Road, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 4PL, UK Unless stated to be non-confidential, this email and any attachments are private and confidential and are for addressee only. If you have received this email in error please contact us upon receipt. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of ThinkCo Limited. -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of FayeC Sent: 28 July 2006 16:32 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: [thelist] NS 4.7 compatibility? I have been doing some research on the necessitity of backwards compatibility for corporate sites. Currently our site is compatible with NS 4.7 and above. It is a corporate banking site geared towards major companies as clients and it's currently some 3 years old. The issue is that because of that restriction (imposed by marketing) we are unable to design anything using CSS layout and are stuck with nested tables *everywhere* to make things look ok in NS as they do in IE. That also limits our use of the space since we are not allowed to use drop down menus which means content and navigation crowd the site and the pages are *too long*. >From all the corporate banks in the top 10 list (N. America, Europe, Asia) only 3 - that's counting us - are NS 4.7 compatible. Here's my question: Is it a valid point to maintain the site compatible with NS 4.7? And if not what would be a VERY valid argument I could use to propose the change to a more current version? We would need major re-engineering of the site to make everything fit nice and look nice but with less constraints we can play with layout much easier. Any comments and ideas are welcome, FayeC -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !