> That would seem pretty definitive :-) Yes it is :) However it uses a 100% wide frame for main content. and a 0 width frame for the proxy to server. That's just like not using frames at all (or not using them in the traditional way (as a navigation bar or an embedded content in the middle of the page etc.) The bottom frame (0-width) is full of script elements (around 30 or so) and a copyright notice at the bottom " Copyright 2002-2006 Google Inc. Give to:Mx " Cheers, -- Volkan Ozcelik +>Yep! I'm blogging! : http://www.volkanozcelik.com/cre8/blog/ +> Going solo in Turkish: http://www.volkanozcelik.com/donkisot/ +> My projects/studies/trials/errors : http://www.sarmal.com/ +> Sardalya JavaScript Library: http://www.sarmal.com/sardalya/