For larger projects, we usually agree a concept charge with the potential client, as many projects are very detailed and require a lot of planning. Sales guys will usually be worried about charging for something like this, but if you're going to spend more than a couple of hours on this kind of concept then it's totally realistic to charge for it. If a client wants four weeks' concept time for free, then they're being unrealistic and I'd avoid the client. Unless it's a "can't say no" client/project, in which case, I'd agree a special hourly/daily rate for the concept work. Mark Howells www.permanenttourist.ch On 18.12.2006, at 17:06, Dawson Costelloe wrote: > Hello, I had a meeting last week, of which the client was to sign-off > on our initial proposal for the web project, including: hosting, > design and development. > > They liked the initial proposal and ideas, and now want us to go on to > write a final proposal, which would include a LOT of work and a huge > amount of detail, as the project is very technical and not on the > small side. > > However, our new business manager was concerned when I suggested we > charge for the final proposal? Is this so wrong/strange? Do you > guys/girls charge for final proposal and if so how? how do you put > this to the client and work out the fee etc? > > (I think it's going to take me around four weeks to write the final > proposal, including client meetings) > > Thanks. > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt !