first of all, about this: > On 2007/02/21 16:57 (GMT) Barney Carroll apparently typed: > >> What do you mean by "basing designs on 100% of user defaults"? > if you RE-READ the original message, he said "not" right before your snip, making your quote 100% misleading. the original quote would be: "Maybe it's an indirect impetus to get designers to see the folly of not basing designs on 100% of user defaults. 100% of user defaults leaves it up to each user to decide what's too big or too small or just right for his local environment." moving on... i went and read that 100% e2r article, and while i may agree with some of it, the whole thing strikes me as a bit hypocritical. its main premise is to let people do what they want, as in: leave their settings alone and never choose for them. yet, designers are NOT allowed to choose?? what if i, the almighty designer - WANT A SMALL FONT. then to hell with that article - if i WANT A SMALL font, then i will HAVE A SMALL FONT. - even if only to chase away people who hate small fonts. maybe i actually don't want them, maybe i mock design to create design, maybe i'm a small interest group who loves to squint... - now clearly i'm being hypothetical - i don't love really small fonts per se, but i love the freedom to choose. and i actually DO think that the e2r article makes sense in a restricted way, but i really get pissed when so-called "designers" get carried away and start telling me what i should like, and what's right and what's wrong. it's just YET ANOTHER OPINION - can't you afford any modesty at all? don't tell me my choice is wrong cause you don't like it - maybe i don't want you to like it. boy, the level of arrogance in that article made me want to create a totally UnR34D4B13 s1T3 <--just 4 kix. design means choice, so stop telling people their choice is wrong - it may not be for *most* - but then neither was picasso, or cubism, or abstract - thank god they broke rules . finally - i'm interested to your consideration of this: if you are writing INFORMATION for seniors, then sure, make it big and clear - but if you are peddling 50cent ringtones to punks, and your site looks lke that article's banal, standardized, vanilla pudding - then kiss your demographic goodbye. just sayin....and maybe i'm not 100% clear of what i'm saying, so there.