Give the white lettering a dark border? Sometimes simplest solution is best! ;) BTW, I think the term you want is "watermark"; or am I misunderstanding? Stephen Rider http://striderweb.com/ On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Noah St. Amand wrote: > Hi, > > I've done a number of sites lately where the wordmark is white text > on a > colour gradient, or over a photo (I don't design them). In the > interest > of keeping everything as semantic as possible, I generally separate > the > wordmark from the background, make the wordmark a PNG with > alpha-transparency (with the necessary IE < 7 fixes incorporated), and > implement the background as a background in the CSS. > > This works great on the screen, but creates a problem when it comes > time > to do a print stylesheet. Because the logo is an image in the > document, > it is printed, but the background behind it is almost always not. As a > result, the logo is completely invisible (because it's entirely > white).