j s wrote: > Of course I view stuff in a browser. But when your code goes over 500 lines it's a lot easier to do some stuff with a gui editor like dreamweaver. Most webpages can be built in 100-150 lines of HTML. I'm not talking simple things, I'm talking full e-commerce pages with shopping carts and so forth. The end result will be more than that, but in terms of what you are working with on a particlaur asp file, is really sounds like your missing out on content/presentation splits. info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_style_and_content DW is probably adding to your code bloat in the first place. Learn to use linked external library's, includes for common elements like headers, navs, and footers..., use functions and calls in your coding instead of in-line scripting, and so forth, and you'll find your code getting better, your sites development time decreasing, and your page loads getting faster.