[thelist] publishing pics of vehicles - permission/protocol

TJ iwebforums at gmail.com
Thu Jul 24 12:44:52 CDT 2008

I hear what you're saying.  Sorry about the hijack (not really a
cross-posting).  And I agree - to a point.  But:  "You don't have the
(elected governmental) authority to abrogate other people's rights."

I, you, we also dont have the right to be treated as such and there arent
nearly enough "elected governmental authories" to see this stuff
happening.   "vigilante-ism" ??   Nah...   simple exposure.  The news does
it all the time.  The news doesnt ask your permission if you're passing by a
live shot.  Good luck on that.  I am well aware of the so-called privacy
complaints about Google too.  Nothing much is private anymore these days.
Its a fact of today's life.

When you go out into the public (I would consider the street, freeway,
parking lots all public -- nothing private about that), your privacy
diminishes significantly.  Just look around at all of those cameras peering
at you at wal-mart, target, home depot, etc, etc, etc, etc.   They are
everywhere.  You think you have privacy out there?  Ha!    Your privacy in
your own home has even been violated when, years ago I believe, someone
video taped their neighbor having loud sex from their own window.
Apparently they were annoying the neighbors so the neighbors shot a video.
The judge ruled in favor of the videographer.  I think it happened in FL
back in the 90s.

Anyway, its an idea and its nothing different than those web sites that
claim some guy is a bad boyfriend where anyone can post bogus info that can
barely be fact-checked.  Or, a web site that claims it shows rotten
neighbors just because you posted some trash about some person you may not
live in the same state with!

Privacy? No more.  The fact that you may think the video tape is "not legal"
doesnt mean the act didnt happen.

On 7/24/08, Luther, Ron <Ron.Luther at hp.com> wrote:
> TJ crossposted and noted:
> >>I have been wanting to post videos of aggressive drivers and their
> >>cars, plates, ... times ... dates ... locations ...
> .. as well as their names, SSNs, home phone numbers, pet's favorite foods,
> birthdates of firstborn, ...
> Oh, Hi TJ!
> First a quick note to remind all that cross-posting is considered bad form
> here.
> Secondly, as much as I may sympathize with the annoyance bad and/or
> aggressive drivers can be on the highway, this is (IMVHO) an extremely bad
> idea that crosses the border into vigilante-ism.
> >>I dont see what harm a video would do because its actual
> Then read up on public reaction to things like Google Earth camera cars,
> traffic cameras, and even biometric ID cards for that matter.
> The issue isn't about the factuality of the event ... it's all about the
> privacy rights of those involved (and/or standing nearby in some
> cases).  You don't have the (elected governmental) authority to abrogate
> other people's rights.  Sorry.  It may be a fun daydream, but it would not
> be a very smart thing to do.
> Back to Bob's original question - I would CYA, make up a release form and
> get it signed and filed.  You may see the photos as a nice portfolio to have
> showcasing your 'before' and 'after' auto repairing skills but I think they
> could inadvertantly land you into legal troubles you don't want to be
> involved in.  John's point about the potential for objections from 500 pound
> corporate gorillas is also worth remembering.
> HTH,
> RonL.
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