Duncan Hill wrote: > Do you have any other styling applied to the button. my Opera 9.52 on > W2K gives an almost XP style button with text centered horizontally > and vertically, using a transitional Doctype. (Same on XP) Yes, the buttons are styled to fit in the design, but as far as I know, there's nothing there to change the position of the text. Here are the styles that apply to the buttons: background: url('/images/layout/bg_button.jpg') #446fac top left no-repeat; border: none; color: #fff; cursor: pointer; font-size: 9px; font-weight: bold; height: 22px; margin-left: 2px; (font-family is inherited and set to Arial, mainly). I tried setting vertical-align: middle; but I noticed that this does not affect the position of the text in the button, but the position of the button in relation to the line it is in (like with an image), so that didn't work. Rick.