I've clearly forgotten the little I ever knew about javascript. Or perhaps it's that I've been sick for three weeks. This form either never fires the validation script, or ignores the field checks along the way: http://orangecardmovement.org/ocm/declaration_v.asp If I add an alert just inside the function, it fires, then whatever the next line is never seems to happen. I'm looking forward to seeing how excruciatingly obvious this is. Thanks. joel -- Joel D Canfield Joel at CommonsenseEntrepreneur.com