Well there have been a couple more interesting developments with the website speed thread. My website is hosted in a common shared hosting arrangement, which of course introduces another variable with what's going on simultaneously with other websites. Occasionally I will see a first load of the home page in under 4 seconds, but other times 8-9. Not awful but not great. Then of course all other pages load relatively fast after that. I inquired to the hosting service how many other websites were hosted but they were not up to sharing that info, which I expected. To switch to a dedicated server the cost would climbs to about $175/month. Too much at this time considering performance is acceptable. The other really factor that I see is browser. On my Linux PC I have loaded Firefox, Konqueror, Opera, Epiphany and Seamonkey for testing. The other browsers almost all load faster than Firefox. Epiphany will commonly load the home page in about 2 seconds as opposed to Firefox's 3-4. I've looked at the FF settings but don't see anything that should account for this. Disabling the YSlow and other toolbars has negligible to incidental effect. -- Bob Meetin www.dottedi.biz 303-926-0167 Hook up with me at www.Twitter.com/bobmeetin or www.Twitter.com/dottedi, Facebook, LinkedIn, or catch my blog at www.dottedi.biz/blog.php Standards - you gotta love em - there are so many to choose from!