Garth, Is this a div with no text in it? I am not sure your problem fits this IE bug, but sometimes IE will behave if you put a comment inside the div, here is a good one: <!-- IE SUCKS! --> Nan -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Garth Hagerman Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:22 PM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] Internet Explorer ignoring margin > > For almost > an entire site, most versions of Internet Explorer (v. 9 gets it > right) ignore the top margin on a div. > Sounds to me like it might be a case of collapsing margins. Thanks, Sarah. That led me on the path to a solution. There seem to several collapsing margins bugs, or ways to trigger the same bug, or sub-bugs, or something. My initial research just found variations triggered by floating elements. The various discussions of margin collapsing in IE led me to try: 1. Adding a background-colored top border to the content div. That didn't work. 2. Defining a height for the content div. That didn't work, either. 3. Adding a dummy div before the content div. Bingo! While the dummy div is a bit of a kludge, at least it's a simple one. Garth * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * my online portfolio http://garthhagerman.com/ -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !