[thelist] What's a Programmer To Do?

Olivier Percebois-Garve percebois at gmail.com
Wed Apr 1 09:14:05 CDT 2009


I understand that Drupal gives you real paid work, but ends up getting
really boring.
I also understand that you really like CakePHP, its my case too. The sad
thing, as fart as I have seen,
is that every single job offer related to a php framework that I saw was
mentioning ZF and not cake.
Maybe its different in the US, but it is like that over here in Europe. If
you feel like learning it, go for it,
but I understand that its boring option if you already know cake.

Personally I have decided to go explore Jaxer this days. This helps me
improving my js skills, and is "real coding".
 It may be soon of a real use too, since that Jaxer can be added on top of a
LAMP stack,
it can be used to do some DOM manipulation after the website has been
processed by Drupal.

I really believe that this will give us real paid jobs in about 12 -30 month
depending on how fast jaxer develops.

this is my personnal opinion, but hope I pointed you toward something


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Fred Jones <fredthejonester at gmail.com>wrote:

> I started off some years ago programming in Perl and then switched to
> PHP (not on purpose really). Of course HTML/CSS/JS/SQL are "par for
> the course" in my business, which is making small to medium sized
> sites for individuals, small businesses and NPOs. I then fell into
> Drupal (not on purpose again) and have been working with that for
> maybe 2 years. Before that I did a half a year with CakePHP.
> I am getting mildly tired of Drupal. One reason is that I just learned
> about the upgrade and EOL issue (Drupal 5 will be EOL'd later this
> year meaning no more security updates. I didn't realize that when I
> built over a dozen sites with it in the past year or so). Second is
> that Drupal is a lot about configuration and using available module
> code and less about just programming. I miss programming. I studied it
> in University and I like it but I don't do *so* much of it now. :(
> Could also just be that I am getting burned out of the same (Drupal)
> project I have been working on for almost a year. :)
> I was thinking of trying to switch back to CakePHP b/c the work there
> is inherently mostly just coding. But a friend said to me that, in his
> experience, the market is 3 to 1 in favor of requests for Drupal work
> than Cake work. I would also consider Ruby on Rails I suppose, but
> there would be more of a learning curve there.
> Anyway, I'm just wondering what people think--I *may* be ready for a
> change. :)
> Thanks.
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