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Today's Topics:
1. PHP mail headers (// kerin | airside.co.uk)
2. Specification parts? (Lauri Vain)
3. Re: Specification parts? (Bev Corwin)
4. RE: netscape 4 nested tables - YAY! (Denis, David)
5. Re: netscape 4 nested tables - YAY! (Morkeleb)
6. Re: Basic JavaScript Help? (James Aylard)
7. RE: Inline PDFs? (Rebecca Milot-Bradford)
8. Re: netscape 4 nested tables - YAY! (James Aylard)
9. Re[2]: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please (kristina)
10. IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning (John Handelaar)
11. RE: Re[2]: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please
(Scott Dexter)
12. Re: IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning (Ed Courtenay)
13. Re: Our company website : site critique please (Norman Bunn)
14. Re: Re[2]: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please
(Joshua Olson)
15. RE: Our company website : site critique please (Ross Lynch)
16. RE: IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning (Glenn Hunt)
17. Re: css woes - ie 6 ? (Glenn Hunt)
18. Re: PHP mail headers (Jeremy Ashcraft)
19. Re: css woes - ie 6 ? (James Aylard)
20. RE: PHP mail headers (Pete Freitag)
21. RE: css woes - ie 6 ? (Glenn Hunt)
22. RE: PHP mail headers (// kerin | airside.co.uk)
23. Creating forms and a results page (Bob Boisvert)
24. RE: netscape 4 nested tables - YAY! (Steve Cook)
25. Getting started in consulting (Madhu Menon)
26. RE: PHP mail headers (Jon Haworth)
27. Re: js form validation? (Adam)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:22:56 +0000
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: "// kerin | airside.co.uk" <kerin at airside.co.uk>
Subject: [thelist] PHP mail headers
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi everyone,
I'm using PHP to send out mail using the mail() function.
Here's a snippet of my code:
while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql_result)) {
$email = $row["email"];
$firstname = $row["firstname"];
$secondname = $row["secondname"];
$headers ="From: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nReply-To:
mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nTo: '".$firstname." ".$secondname."'
<".$email.">";
mail($email,$subject,$body,$headers);
}
now, the mail sounds out fine, except that the mail headers don't
work. The most important of these is the From: field. At the minute,
the From field in the received email is our ISPs equivalent of
root at localhost - not desirable.
I've tried every permutation on the From field I can think of -
from: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com <pauloakenfold.com>
from: pauloakenfold.com <mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com>
from: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com
from: <mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com>
And I still get root at localhost in the From: field.
Oh, and all of my so-called "header" fields just get dumped in the
message body.
Where am I going wrong?
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Message: 2
From: "Lauri Vain" <optima at hot.ee>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:21:35 +0300
charset="iso-8859-4"
Subject: [thelist] Specification parts?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi fellow evolters,
Yesterday Chris started an interesting thread about specifications and
invited
people to vote whether a specification is needed when doing a project.
I, too, voted among the other 132 voters and at 4 pm, these were the results
(timezone GMT +02.00).
o 1.5 % of the voters thought that a spec is not needed at all and a total
of
4.6 % of the voters have never done one.
o At the same time 93.8 % thought that a spec is necessary (whereby 24.6 %
voted "sometimes" and 69.2 % voted "Very much").
(note: another thread can be started about where the remaining 0.1 % are.
Which
group would get that added to their results and thereby significantly change
the
votes? :))
...today, I ask what are the major parts of a specification. I have done
work
with real specifications only 1/3 of the time since I've been a programmer,
but
I feel that laying out what needs to be done on paper is the base layer for
success. Specs often drastically decrease the time spent on programming,
testing
and integrating.
By looking at the spec next to my keyboard and by relying on a bit of
previous
experience, specs have most often the following parts.
o Objectives of the project
o Members of the team (list with member name and function)
o Target audience
o Requirements list
o Structure of site (relational site map or something similar)
o Deliverables
o Workstreams
o Phases (discovery, initation, design, build, test, launch, evaluation)
o Deadlines (not always nescessary -- sometimes the
coder creates a proposal based on the spec)
(some items on the list were extracted from Martin's article here at evolt
"A
Project
Management Glossary")
Could some savvy people out there make additions to these? Closer comments
on
the points above and on every newly suggested point, are highly welcome as
well.
Alternatively, I would also like to see some real specs or examples.
Thanks!
Lauri
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Message: 3
Reply-To: "Bev Corwin" <bev at enso-company.com>
From: "Bev Corwin" <bev at enso-company.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Specification parts?
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:37:50 -0700
Organization: Enso Company Ltd.
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Re: specs.... I vote yes, but there are times when I, also do not use them.
It really depends on the project.
Sincerely,
Bev
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauri Vain" <optima at hot.ee>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: [thelist] Specification parts?
> Hi fellow evolters,
>
> Yesterday Chris started an interesting thread about specifications and
invited
> people to vote whether a specification is needed when doing a project.
>
> I, too, voted among the other 132 voters and at 4 pm, these were the
results
> (timezone GMT +02.00).
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Message: 4
From: "Denis, David" <DDenis at inlumen.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:49:16 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
OK well then here's a question, I put the page up here:
http://www.davedenis.com/ns4/home3.html
Now, in NS4 it stalls after a second, and then takes about 12 seconds to
load (page doesn't look proper yet). This isn't a bandwidth issue, try it
in IE. Or better yet save it locally in IE and then load it in NS4 and it
still stalls. The deepest nesting there is 4 levels (I have borders turned
on). Any thoughts? Maybe it's not a nesting issue but something else? I
thought I had it isolated to nested tables though, unfortunately I didn't do
this page in the first place.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: rudy [mailto:r937 at interlog.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:58 PM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
> What I've found is that if you can stay out of going 4 tables *deep*
> like you've outlined above, your pretty safe.
4 is definitely safe
i've gone down 6, and i think you can go 8 safely
try it for yourself, go visit the "massively nested table stress test"
in your browser of choice and see if you notice a rendering
delay as you resize the window (the tables are liquid)
http://mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/stress/test6.html
<tip type="html table complexity">
always choose to nest an additional table level
rather than resort to complex colspans and rowspans
</tip>
of course, if you have to nest tables more than 2 or 3 deep,
perhaps you need to re-think the design, eh
;o)
rudy
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Message: 5
From: "Morkeleb" <morkeleb at dragonshadows.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:42:02 -0700
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi! New guy here!
Correct me if I"m wrong, but isn't there an issue of Netscape 4.xx flavors
not fully supporting W3C 4?
I see in the header that the code declares:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
Also, I've loaded it both in IE and Mozilla. Mozilla is kind enough to tell
me that it loads in 9.18 seconds and it doesn't hang except at the very
beginning before anything appears on the screen. I'd have to think that the
stall on this page is a limitation of the browser, rather than anything to
do with the code.
Just my two-cents. :)
Morkeleb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denis, David" <DDenis at inlumen.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
> OK well then here's a question, I put the page up here:
> http://www.davedenis.com/ns4/home3.html
>
> Now, in NS4 it stalls after a second, and then takes about 12 seconds to
> load (page doesn't look proper yet). This isn't a bandwidth issue, try
it
> in IE. Or better yet save it locally in IE and then load it in NS4 and
it
> still stalls. The deepest nesting there is 4 levels (I have borders
turned
> on). Any thoughts? Maybe it's not a nesting issue but something else?
I
> thought I had it isolated to nested tables though, unfortunately I didn't
do
> this page in the first place.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rudy [mailto:r937 at interlog.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:58 PM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
>
>
> > What I've found is that if you can stay out of going 4 tables *deep*
> > like you've outlined above, your pretty safe.
>
> 4 is definitely safe
>
> i've gone down 6, and i think you can go 8 safely
>
> try it for yourself, go visit the "massively nested table stress test"
> in your browser of choice and see if you notice a rendering
> delay as you resize the window (the tables are liquid)
>
> http://mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/stress/test6.html
>
> <tip type="html table complexity">
> always choose to nest an additional table level
> rather than resort to complex colspans and rowspans
> </tip>
>
> of course, if you have to nest tables more than 2 or 3 deep,
> perhaps you need to re-think the design, eh
>
> ;o)
>
>
> rudy
>
>
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Message: 6
From: "James Aylard" <webmaster at equilon-mrc.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Basic JavaScript Help?
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:01:48 -0700
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Richard and darren,
darren's approach is an excellent one for a few of very good reasons:
1) it will work in a browser without javascript enabled
2) it allows shift-clickers (like me) to open the window by shift-clicking
(sans annoying blank window with javascript string in the address bar)
3) it passes on the url via this.href, which avoids the possibility of a
typo
Additionally, you could pass the target value to your function if there
is a need to open content in different windows:
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function openWin(vUrl,vTarget)
{
n = open(vUrl,vTarget,'width=450,height=450,scrollable,resizable');
}
// -->
</script>
<a href="your url here" target="_blank"
onclick="openWin(this.href, this.target);
return false;">explanation</a>
This applies the benefits of 1), 2), and 3) above to the target
attribute, as well (hats off to jeff for repeating this until it finally
stuck with me).
James Aylard
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Message: 7
From: Rebecca Milot-Bradford <RMilot-Bradford at nsca-lift.org>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Inline PDFs?
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:18:24 -0600
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Michael,
It is an ActiveX control.
Now I'm hoping you don't ask me any in-depth questions about it. I've played
with it a couple of times, but never ended up actually using it on a web
site. All of the pdf files I use are designed to be 8.5" x 11" printed
pages, so if you display them in a little bitty part of the screen, they are
unreadable.
Best Wishes,
Rebecca Milot-Bradford
rmilot-bradford at nsca-lift.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Goddard [mailto:michael at tdh-marketing.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:49 AM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] Inline PDFs?
That is COOL! Exactly how did you do this? A special java applet? I see
the object tag however I am not familiar with its use other than java etc.
Thanks,
Michael
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Message: 8
From: "James Aylard" <webmaster at equilon-mrc.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:19:59 -0700
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
David,
> OK well then here's a question, I put the page up here:
> http://www.davedenis.com/ns4/home3.html
> Now, in NS4 it stalls after a second, and then takes about 12 seconds to
> load (page doesn't look proper yet). This isn't a bandwidth issue, try
it
...
One potential problem may be that this page is generated by IE's MSHTML
parser, and Netscape might not like it. But you appear to have problems with
missing or improperly placed closing </table> tags within your nested
tables:
396: </TD>
397: </TR>
398: </TD>
399: </TR>
400: </TABLE>
...
469:
color=green>1.5</FONT></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TD></TR></TABLE><
/TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR>
...
533:
color=green>0.7</FONT></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE></TD></TR></TD></TR></TABLE><
/TD></TR></TABLE><IMG
... and so forth. I suggest running your page through the W3C validator
[1]
and cleaning it up per the validator's recommendations, and then see what
happens. In Netscape, improperly nested tables, or tables with missing end
tags, are fatal -- your table content simply won't display.
James Aylard
1. http://validator.w3.org/
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:26:20 +0100
From: kristina <kristina at kfx-design.co.uk>
Reply-To: kristina <kristina at kfx-design.co.uk>
To: Glenn Hunt <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re[2]: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Glenn,
¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬
: I should point out that I am running two 19" monitors, each at
: 1280x1024.
: What size monitors do those who are running at 1600x1200 have? This
: makes a big difference.
¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬
mine ia a 21"
--
kristina
kristina at kfx-design.co.uk
"When written in Chinese, the word 'crisis' is composed of two characters.
One represents danger, and the other represents opportunity."
-- John F. Kennedy
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Message: 10
From: "John Handelaar" <john at userfrenzy.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:31:10 +0100
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: [thelist] IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
<tip type="IE6 and FTP support">
IE6, it appears, doesn't support the URL string type
ftp://username@ftpsite.net/dir/dir for authenticated
FTP sessions, like IE5.x used to. Instead of popping
up a password entry box, it fails.
Bummer.
</tip>
------------------------------------------
John Handelaar
T +44 20 7209 4117 M +44 7930 681789
F +44 870 169 7657 E john at userfrenzy.com
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Message: 11
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please
charset="iso-8859-1"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:37:18 -0500
From: "Scott Dexter" <sgd at ti3.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> : What size monitors do those who are running at 1600x1200 have? This
> : makes a big difference.
> ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬
>
> mine ia a 21"
>
I run 1280x1024 on a 17" but have bumped it to 1600x1200 for screen
caps...
sgd
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Message: 12
Reply-To: "Ed Courtenay" <ed at edcourtenay.co.uk>
From: "Ed Courtenay" <ed at edcourtenay.co.uk>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:38:32 +0100
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I cannot reproduce the problem you are experiencing; I'm using IE6.0 under
both Windows 2000 and Windows XP RC2, and regularly use the
ftp://username@site/ method.
Ed Courtenay
http://www.edcourtenay.co.uk
((wrong && wrong) != right)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Handelaar" <john at userfrenzy.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: [thelist] IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning
>
> <tip type="IE6 and FTP support">
> IE6, it appears, doesn't support the URL string type
> ftp://username@ftpsite.net/dir/dir for authenticated
> FTP sessions, like IE5.x used to. Instead of popping
> up a password entry box, it fails.
>
> Bummer.
> </tip>
>
> ------------------------------------------
> John Handelaar
>
> T +44 20 7209 4117 M +44 7930 681789
> F +44 870 169 7657 E john at userfrenzy.com
> ------------------------------------------
>
> ---------------------------------------
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Message: 13
From: "Norman Bunn" <norman.bunn at mindspring.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:38:03 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> > : What size monitors do those who are running at 1600x1200 have? This
> > : makes a big difference.
> > ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬
I am using a 19".
Norman
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Message: 14
From: "Joshua Olson" <joshua at alphashop.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:51:15 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Mines a high quality 17" DELL monitor. So things are pretty tiny, but
still, I like it that way because I have more real-estate and I do not feel
like I have tunnel vision. If I run at 1024x768 then I actually can feel
stress in my legs and back--which is odd because I am not claustrophobic in
real-space. The result of the stress is that I become less productive. So,
I put up with the tiny font to feel more at ease.
-joshua
----- Original Message -----
From: "kristina" <kristina at kfx-design.co.uk>
Subject: Re[2]: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please
: Glenn,
:
: ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬
: : I should point out that I am running two 19" monitors, each at
: : 1280x1024.
:
: : What size monitors do those who are running at 1600x1200 have? This
: : makes a big difference.
: ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬
:
: mine ia a 21"
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Message: 15
From: "Ross Lynch" <kernel at esatclear.ie>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Our company website : site critique please
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:52:22 +0100
charset="US-ASCII"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> What size monitors do those who are
> running at 1600x1200 have? This
> makes a big difference.
1600x1200 on 19"
Something people sometimes don't consider is their
graphics card too. If you've got a crappy one you
can end up with a blurry image which is especially
annoying at high resolutions... hard to read small
text, etc. Not to mention refresh rates...
-Ross
____________________________________________________
ross lynch | me at rosslynch.com | +353 (0)87 9683368
____________________________________________________
Nicht auf dem Teppich, Mann!
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Message: 16
From: "Glenn Hunt" <ghunt at hds.ca>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:00:07 -0400
charset="US-ASCII"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I just tried it as well (IE6 in XP Final), and it popped up the password
dialog no problem.
Glenn Hunt
ghunt at hds.ca
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Ed Courtenay
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:39 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning
>
>
> I cannot reproduce the problem you are experiencing; I'm
> using IE6.0 under both Windows 2000 and Windows XP RC2, and
> regularly use the ftp://username@site/ method.
>
> Ed Courtenay
> http://www.edcourtenay.co.uk
> ((wrong && wrong) != right)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Handelaar" <john at userfrenzy.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:31 PM
> Subject: [thelist] IE6 - free tip and/or bug warning
>
>
> >
> > <tip type="IE6 and FTP support">
> > IE6, it appears, doesn't support the URL string type
> > ftp://username@ftpsite.net/dir/dir for authenticated FTP sessions,
> > like IE5.x used to. Instead of popping up a password entry box, it
> > fails.
> >
> > Bummer.
> > </tip>
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > John Handelaar
> >
> > T +44 20 7209 4117 M +44 7930 681789
> > F +44 870 169 7657 E john at userfrenzy.com
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> > ---------------------------------------
> > For unsubscribe and other options, including
> > the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to:
http://lists.evolt.org
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Message: 17
From: "Glenn Hunt" <ghunt at hds.ca>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] css woes - ie 6 ?
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:01:22 -0400
charset="US-ASCII"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Jeana,
You have a number of missing semi-colons in your stylesheet. You also
had the following:
a.reddish:hover {
It should be:
.reddish a:hover {
Once I fixed this, the page loads and displays fine. I attached the
fixed stylesheet.
[I tried attaching and sending it to the list, but it still hasn't shown
up - must be held up. Maybe it will show up later.]
Glenn Hunt
ghunt at hds.ca
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Jeana Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:21 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: [thelist] css woes - ie 6 ?
>
>
> Ok.. so now I'm wondering if there is a css - ie6 :hover bug.
> I took out all the fancy div tag hovering and added a cheesy
> background-color to my a.class:hover tag and the page still
> dances. Here are the links:
>
> version one (fancy) -
> http://developer.metropolis.com/jmclark/scott/temp3.html
> stylesheet -
> http://developer.metropolis.com/jmclark/scott/scottstyle.css
>
> version two (simple :hover .. background-color) -
> http://stormdrain.org/concertcar/index2.html
> stylesheet - http://stormdrain.org/concertcar/scottstyle.css
>
> Does anyone know of an ie6 hover bug? I did a quick search
> on google and nothing came up...searched some recent ala
> posts, and even at evolt. nothing came up. So.. now I'm
> wondering if I have a blaring boo-boo in my code that I'm missing?
>
> help?
> thanks,
> -j
>
> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
>
> Jeana Clark
> Metropolis Gameport Systems
> http://www.Metropolis.com
> 8650 College Blvd.
> Overland Park, KS 66210
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> > [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Jeana Clark
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:23 AM
> > To: [the list]
> > Subject: [thelist] css woes - ie 6 ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Using the navigation examples from
> > http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~ppxsjc1/lab/nottnavi.html
> which someone
> > posted to the list months ago, With some modifications, I created
> > this:
> >
> > http://developer.metropolis.com/jmclark/scott/temp3.html
> >
> > Except, I notice in ie6 that when you mouseover any of the menu
> > choices on the left (except for the first one) the main part of the
> > page decides to dance... which then proceeds to cover up the text.
> > This is a major css experiment... I used some floating div examples
> > from ala and other sources... The way I have the page
> coded... is this
> > *supposed* to happen?
> >
> > It seems to appear ok in all of the browsers except ns4 which I'll
> > address later.. but beyond that.. any suggestions? help? hints?
> >
> > Thanks...
> > -jeana
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 18
charset="iso-8859-1"
From: Jeremy Ashcraft <ashcraft at 13monkeys.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] PHP mail headers
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:13:55 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
You might try removing the \r from you $headers string and just use \n.
jeremy
> while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql_result)) {
> $email = $row["email"];
> $firstname = $row["firstname"];
> $secondname = $row["secondname"];
>
> $headers ="From: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nReply-To:
> mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nTo: '".$firstname." ".$secondname."'
> <".$email.">";
>
> mail($email,$subject,$body,$headers);
> }
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Message: 19
From: "James Aylard" <webmaster at equilon-mrc.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] css woes - ie 6 ?
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:29:04 -0700
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Glenn,
> You have a number of missing semi-colons in your stylesheet. You also
> had the following:
> a.reddish:hover {
> It should be:
> .reddish a:hover {
Actually, both forms are correct; which you use depends on what you are
trying to accomplish. The first one (a.reddish:hover) will only apply the
styling to an <a> element with the classname "reddish" while it is in its
hover state. The second one will apply only to <a> elements, in the hover
state, that are direct descendants of an element with the classname
"reddish". So, the first one would apply in the following example:
<a class="reddish" href="link.html">link</a>
The second would apply in this example:
<div class="reddish"><a href="link.html">link</a>
You are right about the missing semicolons. Semicolons are required
following every property declaration, except that they are optional
following the *last* property declaration for a given selector, e.g., this
is correct:
a {
color: #ffff00 ;
font-family: Wazoo ;
font-size: 20px
}
However, I strongly recommend placing them after *every* property
declaration, since later editing might mean that the last property is no
longer the last -- and it's easier to be consistent by using them always.
James Aylard
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Message: 20
From: "Pete Freitag" <pf at cfdev.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] PHP mail headers
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:24:10 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
No I would leave the \r\n the SMTP RFC requires that you use CRLF.
_____________________________________________
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CFDEV.COM
ColdFusion Developer Resources
http://www.cfdev.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Jeremy Ashcraft
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:14 PM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] PHP mail headers
You might try removing the \r from you $headers string and just use \n.
jeremy
> while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql_result)) {
> $email = $row["email"];
> $firstname = $row["firstname"];
> $secondname = $row["secondname"];
>
> $headers ="From: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nReply-To:
> mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nTo: '".$firstname." ".$secondname."'
> <".$email.">";
>
> mail($email,$subject,$body,$headers);
> }
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Message: 21
From: "Glenn Hunt" <ghunt at hds.ca>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] css woes - ie 6 ?
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:38:36 -0400
charset="US-ASCII"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
In further reading, as James pointed out, you can mix pseudo-classes and
regular classes. In this case, it seems to break IE6 (in a really weird
way). Since in this case you can code it without mixing them (and it
works!), the small change fixes the site.
Glenn Hunt
ghunt at hds.ca
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of James Aylard
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:29 PM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] css woes - ie 6 ?
>
>
> Glenn,
>
> > You have a number of missing semi-colons in your
> stylesheet. You also
> > had the following: a.reddish:hover {
> > It should be:
> > .reddish a:hover {
>
> Actually, both forms are correct; which you use depends
> on what you are trying to accomplish. The first one
> (a.reddish:hover) will only apply the styling to an <a>
> element with the classname "reddish" while it is in its hover
> state. The second one will apply only to <a> elements, in the
> hover state, that are direct descendants of an element with
> the classname "reddish". So, the first one would apply in the
> following example:
>
> <a class="reddish" href="link.html">link</a>
>
> The second would apply in this example:
>
> <div class="reddish"><a href="link.html">link</a>
>
> You are right about the missing semicolons. Semicolons
> are required following every property declaration, except
> that they are optional following the *last* property
> declaration for a given selector, e.g., this is correct:
>
> a {
> color: #ffff00 ;
> font-family: Wazoo ;
> font-size: 20px
> }
>
> However, I strongly recommend placing them after *every*
> property declaration, since later editing might mean that the
> last property is no longer the last -- and it's easier to be
> consistent by using them always.
>
> James Aylard
>
>
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:42:57 +0000
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: "// kerin | airside.co.uk" <kerin at airside.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [thelist] PHP mail headers
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
well, i managed to fix it, but I have absolutely no idea why it works.
I changed this:
$headers ="From: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nReply-To:
mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nTo: '".$firstname." ".$secondname."
'<".$email.">";
To this:
$headers = "";
$headers ="From: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nReply-To:
mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nTo: '".$firstname." ".$secondname."
'<".$email.">";
That makes no sense.
>No I would leave the \r\n the SMTP RFC requires that you use CRLF.
>
>_____________________________________________
>Pete Freitag (pfreitag at cfdev.com)
>CFDEV.COM
>ColdFusion Developer Resources
>http://www.cfdev.com/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
>[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Jeremy Ashcraft
>Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:14 PM
>To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>Subject: Re: [thelist] PHP mail headers
>
>
>You might try removing the \r from you $headers string and just use \n.
>
>jeremy
>
>> while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql_result)) {
>> $email = $row["email"];
>> $firstname = $row["firstname"];
>> $secondname = $row["secondname"];
>>
> > $headers ="From: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nReply-To:
>> mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nTo: '".$firstname." ".$secondname."'
> > <".$email.">";
>>
>> mail($email,$subject,$body,$headers);
>> }
>
>
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Message: 23
From: "Bob Boisvert" <webdad at tampabay.rr.com>
To: "Thelist \(E-mail\)" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:52:01 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: [thelist] Creating forms and a results page
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi all,
I have a form question. I'm using html to create the form and the input
buttons. What I want to do is submit the field information to a results page
for public viewing, the fields are very simply: Name, email, and comments. I
have no problem setting it up to email information but I'm getting confused
about sending it to a page. The web site this will be in is on Geocities so
I'm limited to what I can do. What do I have to do to the results page to
allow it to accept the information posting to it? and what am I missing on
the form to tell it to post to the results page if anything?.
"<form name="activity" method="post" action="???"></form>"
and
"<input type="submit" name="Submit" value="Send Your Post">"
"<input type="reset" name="reset" value="Clear The Form">"
"<input type="submit" name="View" value="View Posts Only"
Onclick="window.navigate('')">"
any help is appreciated.
Bob
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Message: 24
From: Steve Cook <steve.cook at evitbe.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:03:44 +0200
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I posted a question about the same (or similar) problem recently. The best
advice I had was to go through the code and replace as much of the table
formatting as possible (widths, padding, colours etc) with CSS instead. If
you give each table cell a class tag and then use inline styles to define
very variable features (sizes for instance) you will a) reduce the amount of
code to load and b) speed up Netscape.
It's a bit of work, but I tried it and was hugely surprised - a page that
was taking almost 30 second in Netscape now opens in 5.
------------------------------------------
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web strategist
Evitbe AB
031-15 16 17 031-890 365 0703-13 26 31
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denis, David [mailto:DDenis at inlumen.com]
> Sent: den 26 september 2001 16:49
> To: 'thelist at lists.evolt.org'
> Subject: RE: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
>
>
> OK well then here's a question, I put the page up here:
> http://www.davedenis.com/ns4/home3.html
>
> Now, in NS4 it stalls after a second, and then takes about 12
> seconds to
> load (page doesn't look proper yet). This isn't a bandwidth
> issue, try it
> in IE. Or better yet save it locally in IE and then load it
> in NS4 and it
> still stalls. The deepest nesting there is 4 levels (I have
> borders turned
> on). Any thoughts? Maybe it's not a nesting issue but
> something else? I
> thought I had it isolated to nested tables though,
> unfortunately I didn't do
> this page in the first place.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rudy [mailto:r937 at interlog.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:58 PM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] netscape 4 nested tables - YAY!
>
>
> > What I've found is that if you can stay out of going 4 tables *deep*
> > like you've outlined above, your pretty safe.
>
> 4 is definitely safe
>
> i've gone down 6, and i think you can go 8 safely
>
> try it for yourself, go visit the "massively nested table stress test"
> in your browser of choice and see if you notice a rendering
> delay as you resize the window (the tables are liquid)
>
> http://mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/stress/test6.html
>
> <tip type="html table complexity">
> always choose to nest an additional table level
> rather than resort to complex colspans and rowspans
> </tip>
>
> of course, if you have to nest tables more than 2 or 3 deep,
> perhaps you need to re-think the design, eh
>
> ;o)
>
>
> rudy
>
>
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:31:13 +0530
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Madhu Menon <webguru at vsnl.net>
Subject: [thelist] Getting started in consulting
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
G'day honourable list members.
Despite these bleak times, I have chucked a big job at a web solutions
company (I was the UX dept. head) to go solo and start a one-man consulting
business.
Since this is the first time I've done this, I've read several books and
online resources on the subject. However, the best guide is always the
experience of one's peers. With that in mind, I was wondering if any of you
nice people who are also consultants would like to share any words of
wisdom with me. What has your experience taught you?
I would be forever grateful.
Regards,
Madhu
PS: Yes, I know I need a web site. It's coming Real Soon Now (tm) :)
PPS: Is this on topic? If not, I'll post a tip next time.
<<< * >>>
Madhu Menon
User Experience Consultant
e-mail: webguru at vsnl.net
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Message: 26
From: Jon Haworth <jhaworth at witanjardine.co.uk>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] PHP mail headers
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:20:37 +0100
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I think you'll need two \n's after the headers.
Here's how I do it:
<?php
$sendto = "postmaster at 127.0.0.1";
$subject = "Test HTML email";
$headers = "Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\n";
$headers .= "From: George <president at whitehouse.gov>\n";
$headers .= "Reply-to: George <president at whitehouse.gov>\n";
$headers .= "\n";
$message = "<html>";
$message .= "<head>";
# more message
$message .= "</html>";
mail ($sendto, $subject, $message, $headers);
?>
This works fine with PHP 4.0.6, Linux 2.4.5, and Sendmail 8.9.something -
give me a shout if it chokes on your setup.
Cheers
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: // kerin | airside.co.uk [mailto:kerin at airside.co.uk]
Sent: 26 September 2001 16:23
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] PHP mail headers
Hi everyone,
I'm using PHP to send out mail using the mail() function.
Here's a snippet of my code:
while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql_result)) {
$email = $row["email"];
$firstname = $row["firstname"];
$secondname = $row["secondname"];
$headers ="From: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nReply-To:
mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com\r\nTo: '".$firstname." ".$secondname."'
<".$email.">";
mail($email,$subject,$body,$headers);
}
now, the mail sounds out fine, except that the mail headers don't
work. The most important of these is the From: field. At the minute,
the From field in the received email is our ISPs equivalent of
root at localhost - not desirable.
I've tried every permutation on the From field I can think of -
from: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com <pauloakenfold.com>
from: pauloakenfold.com <mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com>
from: mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com
from: <mailinglist at pauloakenfold.com>
And I still get root at localhost in the From: field.
Oh, and all of my so-called "header" fields just get dumped in the
message body.
Where am I going wrong?
**********************************************************************
'The information included in this Email is of a confidential nature and is
intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee,
any disclosure, copying or distribution by you is prohibited and may be
unlawful. Disclosure to any party other than the addressee, whether
inadvertent or otherwise is not intended to waive privilege or
confidentiality'
**********************************************************************
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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:26:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [thelist] js form validation?
From: Adam <adam at hallinteractive.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
hello !
I need serious javascript help! In order to save the costs of having cgi
written for us my boss has got me attempting form validation for a mailto
form with JS! only problem is I've never done one before!?
I did find a relatively simple script that I'm "muddling" trough but I can't
figure out what the action is for when the validation is in the <head>. The
action is directly from the original script. Here's what I've got so far,
I've only figured out that there is a function for the required fields and a
function to validate numbers and one for email. What's next? is there anyone
who can help? anywhere I can get a solid quick tutorial?
Here's the form in all it's screwed up glory...
<-- http://www.hall-assoc.com/clients/gox/goonform2.htm -->
thx for any help you can give!!
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