[Javascript] Re: Standards

Michael Dougherty Michael_Dougherty at PBP.com
Fri Apr 11 10:17:32 CDT 2003


Have you ever used a wiki page?
http://sql.wikis.com

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From: javascript at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript at LaTech.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:04 AM
To: javascript at latech.edu
Subject: RE: [Javascript] Re: Standards


I still don't understand it. I mean, of course JavaScript is useful for
lots
of reasons, what I'm asking is about this particular feature that lets you
edit the content of a web page. What good is it for, if you cannot save
what
you typed? If you could refer to this edited content with JavaScript and
then process it, send it to a server, anything, but if not, it's just as
useful as a notepad that won't let you save what you just edited...

Jaime

-----Mensaje original-----
De: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu] En
nombre de David T. Lovering
Enviado el: viernes, 11 de abril de 2003 16:43
Para: [JavaScript List]
Asunto: Re: [Javascript] Re: Standards


I would argue that as long as the client machine can do useful work without
burdening the server, more power to it.  If that means letting the user
type
in stuff, have it heavily preprocessed, (and maybe defeat the need for
submitting
the form at all!), then print out results, etc.,so be it.  After all,
JavaScript
and its ilk are programming languages -- we damn well can use them as such!

The whole concept of forms is rather outdated.  The only reason I use forms
at all
is because of the fact that most of the input constructs have no existence
outside
a form.  I haven't "submitted" a form in about 3 years, and I sure as heck
don't
let any form 'execute' on my corporate website.

I am striving for the ultimate in seamless integration between the
server-side and
client-side programming languages in which the programmers need not concern
themselves
with the issues of interprocess communication between the two platforms,
nor
need
to be paranoid about the possibility of clear-text parameter exchanges
either.  I still
have a ways to go, but I'm about 87% of the way there.

Cold Fusion tried to do this, but it is slow, clunky, has massive overhead,
costs a 
kidney, and "doesn't play friendly" with other code constructs.  It also
only has about
1% of the combined coding power of PHP, JavaScript, and the like, and the
code efficiency 
is extremely poor.  However, it pointed the way -- so I shouldn't be too
whiney.

-- Dave Lovering


Jaime Iniesta wrote:
>> 
>> Cool, but what's the purpose of letting the users type into a web page?
Can
>> this be submitted with a form or something?
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