Nazir, I've never gotten around this for IE. Instead, I ended up opening a new window that had only the attributes I need. If necessary, you can close the previous window for most major browsers, i.e. http://aspalliance.com/peterbrunone/impossible.asp Cheers, Peter -----Original Message----- From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu] On Behalf Of Nazir Wasim Ahmed Hi Laurent, That is exactly my problem. i need an ie equivalent. Nazir > -----Original Message----- > From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu On Behalf Of Muchacho, > Laurent (TWIi London) > > oops I did a spelling mistake is window.toolbar.visible=false that > working on mozillia, netscape 7 and the value is read only froma > window you didn't open in netscape4 > that is not working on Internet explorer > > Laurent