[Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects

Chris Tifer christ at saeweb.com
Mon Mar 24 07:57:58 CST 2003 

I never knew of any unit of measurement OTHER than Pixels when
using the window.open method, so I'd highly suggest that if ANYONE
is using that stop now.  Just put height=250

Chris Tifer
http://emailajoke.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lovering" <dlovering at gazos.com>
To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects


> ... And let us not forget the mandatory quotes which must delineate any
> entity which isn't explicitly a number, i.e;
> height="250px", etc.
>
> --- from the book "1001 things I've forgotten about Netscape HTML, but
wish
> I'd remembered"
>
> --- Dave Lovering
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Tifer" <christ at saeweb.com>
> To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects
>
>
> > Now I know there were some problems with the 3rd parameter
> > in older versions of NN such as if you put spaces between the window
> > definition such as:
> >
> > height=50, width=50, etc
> >
> > instead of
> >
> > height=50,width=50
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Lovering" <dlovering at gazos.com>
> > To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects
> >
> >
> > > I'll be jiggered.  My old HTML Master Reference lied to me!  (Isn't
that
> > the
> > > same as "creative interpretation?").
> > >
> > > Thanks for the note.
> > >
> > > -- Dave Lovering
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Tifer" <christ at saeweb.com>
> > > To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects
> > >
> > >
> > > > All 3 parameters are optional:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/methods/open_0.asp
> > > >
> > > > Plus, when I put samples online to give solutions to problems, I
> > normally
> > > > do not do exact requests as I get paid for that, but more or less
> > > generally
> > > > give the user an idea on how to accomplish it.
> > > >
> > > > Chris Tifer
> > > > http://www.emailajoke.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Lovering" <dlovering at gazos.com>
> > > > To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:48 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Indeed.  I might add that the canonical usage of 'window.open'
> > requires
> > > 3
> > > > > parameters, not two.  The third is the most critical, and includes
> the
> > > > > window geometry, placement, and chrome.  Some IE versions puke
> > violently
> > > > > unless you completely specify the three fields, even if they are
> null
> > > and
> > > > > consist of nothing more than (" ");
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Dave Lovering
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Chris Tifer" <christ at saeweb.com>
> > > > > To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:46 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > It works the same way as if you were to loop through the
> collections
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > window, but instead you just need to know how to target it as I
> said
> > > > > earlier
> > > > > > through
> > > > > > the handler you used when opening:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > // Called in the main window to open a new window
> > > > > > // Just create a file named Test2.html and throw some links on
it.
> > > > > > var myWin = window.open("Test2.html", "TestWindow")
> > > > > >
> > > > > > // function is also in the main window and when you call the
> > function
> > > > > > // by doing: getLinks(myWin)  - since myWin is your window
handle
> > > > > > function getLinks(objWin){
> > > > > >  linkCol = objWin.document.links
> > > > > >  for(var x = 0; x < linkCol.length; x++){
> > > > > >   alert(linkCol[x])
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem would arise though if you left the page that has the
> > > handler
> > > > > set
> > > > > > up as
> > > > > > you won't be able to reference that window again unless you set
up
> > > > another
> > > > > > handler.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This works in both IE (4+) and NN 7. I would have tested on NN4
> but
> > > > thank
> > > > > > god I don't have that installed on my machine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris Tifer
> > > > > > http://www.emailajoke.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: <uplate at attbi.com>
> > > > > > To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:18 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm really trying to learn how to maneuver about a child
windows
> > > > > > collections.
> > > > > > > I have no nefarious intentions in mind if that is what you are
> > > asking.
> > > > > > > > Interesting.  I'll have to look into that in more detail.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It appears that you are more interested in capturing
> > links/anchors
> > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > than every object on the other page.  Am I right, or have I
> > > > > > misinterpreted
> > > > > > > > your request again?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- Dave Lovering
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: <uplate at attbi.com>
> > > > > > > > To: <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:05 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window Objects
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I guess my earlier email wasn't very clear. What I was
> > > attempting
> > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > was to
> > > > > > > > > enumerate through objects on the child window opened with
> the
> > > > > > window.open
> > > > > > > > > method.
> > > > > > > > > Here is my entire html document:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
> > Transitional//EN">
> > > > > > > > > <html>
> > > > > > > > > <head>
> > > > > > > > > <title>Link Test</title>
> > > > > > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
> > > > > > charset=iso-8859-1">
> > > > > > > > > <script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript">
> > > > > > > > > <!--
> > > > > > > > > var myWin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > function openWin()
> > > > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > > >     myWin =
> window.open("http://www.drudgereport.com","myWin")
> > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > function printLinks()
> > > > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > > >     var str = "";
> > > > > > > > >     for (i=0;i< myWin.document.links.length;i++)
> > > > > > > > >     {
> > > > > > > > >         str = str +  myWin.document.links[i] + "<BR>";
> > > > > > > > >     }
> > > > > > > > >     document.write(str);
> > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > //-->
> > > > > > > > > </script>
> > > > > > > > > </head>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > <body>
> > > > > > > > > <input name="Button2" type="button" onClick="printLinks()"
> > > > > > value="Print">
> > > > > > > > > <input type="button" name="Button" value="Open"
> > > > onClick="openWin()">
> > > > > > > > > </body>
> > > > > > > > > </html>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Perhaps this isn't possible, I'm pretty new to javascript.
> > > > > > > > > > I thought so too, until I did a descending tree
analysis.
> > > > > > Apparently,
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > window.opener sees as its first object a 'document',
much
> > like
> > > a
> > > > > > 'frame'
> > > > > > > > > > does.  Again, to get at the soft and squishy insides you
> > need
> > > to
> > > > > > punch
> > > > > > > > > > through this crust by de-referencing to document.  [I've
> > heard
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > this is somewhat variable, depending on which version of
> IE
> > > you
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > running,
> > > > > > > > > > and/or whether you are using a Netscape model browser].
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you can wave your magic wand to make this go away,
I'll
> > be
> > > > glad
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > cheer
> > > > > > > > > > the process from the sidelines.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -- Dave Lovering
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (BTW -- many of the things inside Microsoft manuals
don't
> > work
> > > > as
> > > > > > > > described.
> > > > > > > > > > If you think you've found a case where this convention
is
> > > > broken,
> > > > > > try
> > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > a getProps routine to map out the properties associated
> with
> > a
> > > > > given
> > > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > > > > layer.  I guarantee you many hours of fear, loathing,
and
> > > > > surprise).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Peter Brunone" <peter at brunone.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:34 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Point of parliamentary procedure:  shouldn't
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > window.opener.parent.document.framename
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > window.opener.parent.framename
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ?  I don't think you can get to the frameset through
the
> > > > > document
> > > > > > > > > > (although with IE 5.5 and above, you can treat iframes
as
> > CSS
> > > > > > elements).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Original
> > > Message ----------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "David Lovering" <dlovering at gazos.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > Reply-To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:29:36 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >It isn't quite that simple.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >When a program spawns a remote, the parent can do
> pretty
> > > much
> > > > > as
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > said,
> > > > > > > > > > > >and use
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
  windowname.document.formname.varname.attribute  --
> > > OR --
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
windowname.document.framename.document.formname.varname.attribute
> > > > > > > > > > > >// one or more frames
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >to call up the bits in the child window(s).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >When the child program wants to access items in the
> > parent
> > > > > > window, it
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > >bit more complicated.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >    For a single form, no-frame parent:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >    window.opener.document.formname.varname.attribute
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >    For multiframe, multiform parent(s):
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >    window.opener.parent.document.formname.varname.attribute --
> > > > > > OR --
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>window.opener.parent.document.framename.document.formname.varname.attribute
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  It gets REALLY tedious when you start embedding
> things
> > > > inside
> > > > > > > > <OBJECT>
> > > > > > > > > > > >declarations, as it appears with
> > > > > > > > > > > >MicroSloth's defective DOM structure you can only go
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > parent
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >child, and not backwards.  I won't even attempt to
give
> > you
> > > a
> > > > > > path
> > > > > > > > map
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > >this -- it is too complicated to explain lucidly in a
> few
> > > > > > sentences.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  The reason the second 'document' declarations are
> > needed
> > > > > inside
> > > > > > > > pages
> > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > >frames is that the frame acts as a document boundary,
> and
> > > to
> > > > > > access
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >internals of one you must 'bust-through' the hard
outer
> > > layer
> > > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >soft and chewy insides.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  Hope this helps.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  -- Dave Lovering
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Chris Tifer" <christ at saeweb.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:49 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> You just have to target which window you want to
look
> > > > through
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > >> using the handler you used when opening the window.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Chris Tifer
> > > > > > > > > > > >> http://www.emailajoke.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > >> From: <uplate at attbi.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> To: <Javascript at LaTech.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:30 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Subject: [Javascript] Enumerating Other Window
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > Greetings;
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > using the window.open() method is it possible to
> open
> > > > > another
> > > > > > URL
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > >then
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > enumerating through it's links or images arrays?
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > Opening the window is no problem and even using a
> for
> > > > loop
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > retrieve
> > > > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> links
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > on the current document is no probllem, but I
can't
> > > seem
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > > > >> working
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > together.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > Any ideas?
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > Thanks.
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