[Javascript] Debugger

Peter Brunone peter at brunone.com
Thu Nov 20 12:12:45 CST 2003


   Maybe David's too busy to interject right now -- I'm sure he has enough other things to do other than monitor this list 24/7 -- but could we please take the religious debates outside?

   The original few topics on this thread had something to do with JS, but it's gone WAY beyond that now.  This list usually has an impressive signal-to-noise ratio; let's not spoil our record.

>From: Robert Pollard <rpollard at apple.com>
>
>On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 07:44 AM, Hakan M. wrote:
>
>>> In fact, they wouldn't need using one of those libraries - they have 
>>> prefect PNG support in among other applications DirectX, iem and 
>>> Office. They just need to put some priority to the iew development, 
>>> which is where they fail.
>>
>>
>> Then, if it is that easy, explain again how Microsoft is NOT 
>> deliberately excluding very, very wanted features for their 
>> browser(software)? If they had any interest in end user developers, 
>> why not just set aside one hour of work for one or two developers? Is 
>> your argument still that it's all about money?
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that Microsoft have an army of strategist (is it the 
>> correct word?) as well, and while their minds are surely set on money 
>> in 80% of the cases, I would be surprised if they're not also actively 
>> making sure that Microsoft is "on top", one way or another. 
>> Concentrating on non-standard solutions while being the superior 
>> software provider of the planet (at least for normal users) will do 
>> this job very well, since it will be they and only they who know how 
>> to work the machine in the end.
>>
>> I'm sorry for the unfriendly tone previously. I get caught up in 
>> discussions badly, and in my opinion Microsoft is The Company when it 
>> comes to f**king with us, the developers. I didn't use to have this 
>> black and white view on it, but after talking to a lot of people 
>> (among other, people working for Microsoft) who fully or partially 
>> confirmed that Microsofts point in everything is "we won't do it the 
>> way you want or the way you think or the good way , we do it our way" 
>> - because then they're in control of everything.
>>
>> Money is a very big issue, yes, but power and world dominance (he he) 
>> are big issues as well.
>
>If you're not lying to us then you have heard it from the horse's 
>mouth.  This is no secret.  I sincerely believe they do these things on 
>purpose for the sole purpose of dominance.
>
>What I don't understand is if Microsoft admits it why does people that 
>don't work for Microsoft having trouble admitting it?





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